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Neulich erreichte mich eine E-Mail, die mich zunächst mal um die Einzigartigkeit meines Domain-Namens »gegsoft« bangen ließ. Erst nach einigem Hin und Her entpuppte sich das Ganze als mieser Betrugsversuch.


Als ich am 27.4.18 meine E-Mails durchsah, fand ich folgende Nachricht:

Von: info@chinaygnet.cn; im Auftrag von Mike Zhang [mike.zhang@chinaygdomain.cn]
Datum: 24.4.18 14:40


Dear CEO,
(It's very urgent, please transfer this email to your CEO. If this email affects you, we are very sorry, please ignore this email. Thanks)

We are a Network Service Company which is the domain name registration center
in China.
We received an application from Hua An Ltd on April 23, 2018. They want to register " gegsoft " as their Internet Keyword and " gegsoft .cn " ," gegsoft .com.cn " ," gegsoft .net.cn " ," gegsoft .org.cn " ," gegsoft .asia " domain names, they are in China and Asia domain names. But after checking it, we find " gegsoft " conflicts with your company. In order to deal with this matter better, so we send you email and confirm whether this company is your distributor or business partner in China or not, Please reply to
mike.zhang@chinaygdomain.cn or chinanameregistry@188.com.

Best Regards,

Mike Zhang | Service & Operations Manager

China YG Domain (Head Office) | 8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China

Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823

Email: mike.zhang@chinaygdomain(dot)cn or chinanameregistry@188.com
Web: www(dot)chinaygdomain(dot)cn

Wegen des sehr förmlichen Charakters dieser E-Mail dachte ich zunächst, dass es sich um die freundliche Mitteilung einer offiziellen Domain-Registrierungsstelle handelt.
Darauf habe ich geantwortet:

Von: xyz@gegsoft.de
Datum: 27.4.18 17:38


Dear Mr. Zhang,

Many thanks for the message.
My domain name has been registered for 7 years and many websites have links pointing to gegsoft.de.
It would be a great effort to inform the webmasters of those sites, and I want to keep my domain name.
In order to solve this conflict, I suggest you to ask Hua An Ltd to use the domain name geg-soft.* because the name gegsoft has not been registered under any other TLD yet.
I am loking forward to receiving your answer.

Yours sincerely,

Gerald Gerosch

Unterdessen hat mich ein anderer Chinese (nämlich der, der den Namen "gegsoft" haben will) angeschrieben:

Von: Lin Jianfeng [lin-jianfeng@vip.163.com] (Hua An Ltd.)
Datum: 28.4.18 04:29


Dear Sirs,

Our company based in chinese office, our company has submitted the " gegsoft " as CN/ASIA(gegsoft.asia, gegsoft.cn, gegsoft.com.cn, gegsoft.net.cn, gegsoft.org.cn) domain name and Internet Keyword " gegsoft ", we are waiting for Mr. Mike's approval. We think these names are very important for our business in Chinese and Asia market. Even though Mr. Mike advises us to change another name, we will persist in this name.

Best regards

Lin jianfeng

Am Maifeiertag (der in China natürlich ein normaler Werktag ist) antwortete Mr.Zhang:

Von: Mike Zhang [mike.zhang@chinaygdomain.com]
Datum: 1.5.18 04:53


Dear Gerald,

Based on your company having no relationship with them, we have suggested they should choose another name to avoid this conflict but they insist on this name as CN/ASIA domain names ( gegsoft.asia , gegsoft.cn, gegsoft.com.cn, gegsoft.net.cn, gegsoft.org.cn) and internet keyword (gegsoft) on the internet.
In our opinion, maybe they do the similar business as your company and register it to promote his company.
According to the domain name registration principle: The domain names and internet keyword which applied based on the international principle are opened to companies as well as individuals. Any companies or individuals have rights to register any domain name and internet keyword which are unregistered.
Because your company haven't registered this name as CN/ASIA domains and internet keyword on the internet, anyone can obtain them by registration.
However, in order to avoid this conflict, the trademark or original name owner has priority to make this registration in our audit period. If your company is the original owner of this name and want to register these CN/ASIA domain names (gegsoft.asia, gegsoft.cn, gegsoft.com.cn, gegsoft.net.cn, gegsoft.org.cn) and internet keyword (gegsoft) to prevent anybody from using them, please inform us. We can send an application form with price list to you and help you register these within dispute period. Look forward to your kind reply!

Kind regards

Mike Zhang | Service Manager

China YG Domain (Head Office)

8006, Xinlong Building, No. 415 WuBao Road, Shanghai 201105, China

Tel: +86-2161918696 | Fax: +86-2161918697 | Mob: +86-1582177 1823

Web: www.chinaygdomain.com

Das Angebot wollte ich mir erst mal anschauen und dann entscheiden was ich mache:

Von: xyz@gegsoft.de
Datum: 2.5.18 00:42


Dear Mr. Zhang, since I was the first to register gegsoft in Germany seven years ago, I do insist in keeping this name unique. So I would appreciate to take advantage of my priority.
In order to do so, I request you to send me the price list for registering the domains in question.

Best regards,

Gerald Gerosch

Mr. Zhangs Antwort ließ nicht lange auf sich warten:

Von: Mike Zhang [mike.zhang@chinaygdomain.com]
Datum: 2.5.18 03:46


Dear Gerald:

Thanks for your email. We send your company the application form to fill in (PDF format), please check the attachment. You can find the cost from this form. If your company want to make this application, please fill in this form and send it back with your company registration certificate (business license) by email within 3 business daysMan beachte die sehr kurze Frist.
Kein seriöses Unternehmen würde eine so kurze Frist setzen.
.

Kind regards

Mike Zhang | Service Manager

Der Inhalt des Anhangs ließ mich dann argwöhnisch werden:
(Zitat aus dem Anhang [gegsoft.pdf Das Antragsformular mit Preisliste im Original]):

Internet Keyword gegsoft[ ]158.00EUR/year
Period of Registration[ ]5years [ ]10years [ ]20years
Domain Name
gegsoft.asia[ ]38.60EUR/year
gegsoft.cn[ ]39.60EUR/year
gegsoft.com.cn[ ]39.60EUR/year
gegsoft.net.cn[ ]39.60EUR/year
gegsoft.org.cn[ ]39.60EUR/year
Period of Registration[ ]5years [ ]10years [ ]20years

Ich rechnete kurz durch, was mich der Spaß wohl kosten würde:

5 · 158 + 5 · (38,60 + 4 · 39,60) = 1775 Euro (!)

Das bewog mich dann, mal nach chinaygdomain.com zu googeln - und bin auf Dutzende von Meldungen gestoßen, die eindringlich vor einem Betrugsversuch warnen, der immer die gleiche Masche mit immer neuen Namen benutzt.

Dann habe ich eine ganz tolle Antwort verfasst:

Von: xyz@gegsoft.de
Datum: 4.5.18 20:36

Übersetzung anzeigen
Dear Mr. Zhang,

after a real short research, I found out that your company, among others, is well known as a fraudulent fake which is trying to poke money out of unwary people running websites in countries other than China.
Everybody is severely warning of chinaygdomain.com and suggesting not to answer any mail from your company. I almost believed you but the prices for the appliance were too high and the period much too short. That's why I became cautious and looked for people having experience with similar cases.
I passed this case to my lawyers, and they will take care of you and your company.
I will add an extra page to my website that describes exactly what you and your company is doing. Furthermore, I will bring you and your company to TV with a special show on how you are trying to betray people all over the world with your deceptive business practice.
I think it is better if you don't send me any more mail, except for a very humble apology which might make me change my mind about my TV plan.

Best regards,

Gerald Gerosch

Das Gute daran ist, dass ich auch bei dieser letzten E-Mail sehr höflich geblieben bin.
Seither hat der freundliche Herr Zhang nichts mehr von sich hören lassen...


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